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The Short Version
Longtime collaborators Kanye West and Jay-Z experienced periods of tension surrounding their 2011 joint album 'Watch the Throne' and subsequent business ventures. Disagreements ranged from four days of debate over track selection to West publicly declaring in 2016 that a sequel album would never happen due to conflicts involving streaming services Tidal and Apple Music.
Latest Development
Kanye West reverses stance, tweeting that 'Throne 2' is coming soon
Two years after declaring the joint project dead, Kanye West posted a tweet stating 'throne2 coming soon', signaling a reversal on the status of a potential sequel.
2018 · Public statement
The Beef
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Beef timeline
2018
Kanye West reverses stance, tweeting that 'Throne 2' is coming soon
Public statementTwo years after declaring the joint project dead, Kanye West posted a tweet stating 'throne2 coming soon', signaling a reversal on the status of a potential sequel.
Source ↗2016
Kanye West rules out 'Watch the Throne 2' during Saint Pablo Tour stop
Public statementDuring a concert on his Saint Pablo Tour, Kanye West declared that 'there will never be a Watch the Throne 2', attributing the impasse to business disputes involving streaming platforms Tidal and Apple Music.
Source ↗Date unknown
Jay-Z reveals four-day debate over 'Holy Grail' and 'Oceans'
Public statementJay-Z revealed in an interview with Zane Lowe that he and Kanye West argued for four days over the songs 'Holy Grail' and 'Oceans'. West wanted both tracks for their joint album 'Watch the Throne', while Jay-Z insisted on keeping them for his solo project 'Magna Carta... Holy Grail'.
Source ↗Date unknown
Kanye West teases 'Part Two' during 'Drink Champs' appearance
Public statementHolding a bottle of Jay-Z's D'USSÉ cognac during an appearance on 'Drink Champs', Kanye West again teased a sequel, stating, 'Courtesy of The Throne. Part two coming soon, hint hint', though no official release date was given.
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Where It Stands
Dormant. While public statements regarding a potential sequel album have oscillated over time—with West later teasing 'Throne 2' on social media and during media appearances—no follow-up project has been released, and the collaborative partnership remains inactive.
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Sources
- 1.SourceKanye West reverses stance, tweeting that 'Throne 2' is coming soon ·
- 2.SourceKanye West rules out 'Watch the Throne 2' during Saint Pablo Tour stop ·
- 3.SourceJay-Z reveals four-day debate over 'Holy Grail' and 'Oceans' ·
- 4.SourceKanye West teases 'Part Two' during 'Drink Champs' appearance ·
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